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By: lodurr

Caviar: What would go a long way toward helping to fix that kind of crap is a "reveal codes" mode. You know, like WordPerfect and AmiPro used to have...

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By: Caviar

I will however quibble with statements like "It should not be possible" since users' diverse demands, business priorities, and the pitfalls of a one-size-fits-all mutli-use technology seem to evolve...

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By: krinklyfig

I'm not the browser tart that I used to be ... Isn't that the first line of a country song?

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By: abulafa

KirkJobSluder: totally agree, however all of those things are "going to" or "in the future" which business folks are notoriously bad at rolling into a budget. Sep 2008 in Belgium, for instance, which...

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By: Caviar

I seem to recall that there are some pretty fundamental problems in converting between ODF and Word, having to do with how Word implements styles. That's because Word styles (at least through Word...

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By: hoborg

But in practice, whenever MS has adopted a format, they've tended to overpower the competitor whose format they're adopting. Viz, WordPerfect. It's a little misleading. Wordperfect was by far market...

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By: KirkJobSluder

abulafa: Well, depending on the winds of political change, OpenDocument could be a HUGE factor that translates into millions of dollars. When a government like Mass., Denmark and Belgium adopt a...

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By: jam_pony

Mozilla isn't quite dead yet (cue Monty Python jokes). It's now spun off as Seamonkey. The reasons for its fans' loyalty include some interface differences - for example I find the bookmarks UI far...

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By: abulafa

MS seem to have revamped their office formats immensely in the last, say, 5 years, but if ODF and MS formats are based on fundamentally different premises (whatever those may be) then the notion of...

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By: lodurr

Well, not to start a browser war ;), but: I used it back then, too. It was slower, didn't render pages well, and used more RAM than Mozilla. Oh, and it crashed a lot. And you sometimes had to do a lot...

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By: breath

lodurr, I've been a user of Firefox since 0.3, when it was still called Phoenix, and IMO, it was a better browser even then.

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By: lodurr

AFAICS, FF only really became a kickass browser after the Mozilla Foundation killed Mozilla. It was only then that the more quality-focused people (who were working on Mozilla) went over to working on...

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By: sonofsamiam

OO still has a some way to go in the realms of stability and speed This is very true. The example of Firefox gives me quite a bit of hope, though, it's a kickass browser by any measure now, it wasn't...

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By: lodurr

I seem to recall that there are some pretty fundamental problems in converting between ODF and Word, having to do with how Word implements styles. But my retrieval system isn't working very well this...

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By: jam_pony

With Office, Microsoft is already ahead on features and quality - if openness is excluded from "features". But I don't think they've given up on lock-in yet. Maybe after exhausting all other tactics....

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By: octothorpe

It's interesting that they are willing to level the playing field and try to compete with OpenOffice purely on features and quality. They can't compete on price and now they can't rely on file format...

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By: KirkJobSluder

I just found it exceedingly odd that MS kept saying, "we won't support it because there is no demand for it" while multiple markets were saying, "we want support for this." Well, I don't find it odd, I...

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By: bering

Don't forget about Denmark

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By: KirkJobSluder

Thanks to the mod for the clean-up. Of course support for earlier versions of MSWord is still vaporware. I suspect that what happened is that the issue was forced on them when the ODF Group gave Mass....

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By: Blazecock Pileon

Pux?

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